"If you're asking me somebody on the team says, 'I'm not going to dope,' and I say, 'You're fired'? Absolutely not ... Look, I was the leader of the team. And the leader of any team leads by example, and there was never a direct order or directive to say, 'You have to do this if you want to do the Tour, if you want to be on the team.' That never happened. It was a competitive time. We were all grown men. We all made our choices. But there were people on the team that chose not to."